The REAL GefStd of II JK

[SES (†)]

I thought I had found the location of GefStd II JK, which I posted on my WEB-site. I was wrong as a French local historian has pointed out and throughly documented. But as have said several times "My purpose is not to be right, but to get it right" so I am deeply endebted for all the materiel provided enabling me to present the REAL GefStd of II JK http://www.gyges.dk/bunker%20II%20JK%20ny.htm
The former bunker has now moved to the Mystery section
http://www.gyges.dk/bunker%20II%20JK.htm and I would be greatful for any help I can get to identify the unit which utilized this bunker.
bregds
SES

[EricZ]

Hi SES

HQ from 15.9.43 at Chantilly near Paris, then in 8.44 moved to Rochefort (Belgium) and 10.9.44 to Flammersfeld near Koblenz, better near Altenkirchen in the wonderful Westerwald.

(Oh du schöner Westerwald
Über deine Höhen pfeift der Wind so kalt
Jedoch der kleinste Sonnenschein
Dringt tief in’s Herz hinein...)

Disbanded 26.1.45, and used to form 14. and 15. Flieger-Divisionen.

I'm troubled a little bit that the HQ from 9/44 till 1/45 was in such a small village.
Maybe its not difficult to get the information about the correct location...

Brgds Eric

[SES (†)]

Hi Eric.
Thank you. As for the location I've stopped being surprised. Only recently a good friend of mine directed me to a cellar under a resturant, which had been the GefStd of a JD for 6 month. The first bunker which I found in the Chantilly area was unknown by the local historians, which had WW 2 as their field of expertice. I sat here more than 1000 km away and guided them through remote control to the bunker . My new French friend has not stopped celebrating yet. He had a terrible headache 1 JAN.
bregds
SES
And wouldn't I love for you to find the exact spot - again!

[SES (†)]

Hi Eric.
Would this be a good contact ?
http://www.heimatmuseum-altenkirchen.de/
bregds
SES

[EricZ]

Hi SES,

the one you have found could be good or this one here:

http://www.vgflammersfeld.de (Flammersfeld is part of the VG (Verbandsgemeinde) Flammersfeld... )

Brgds, Eric

[jopaerya]

Die Bunker in Chantilly II Jagdkorps und Joux en Joses
5 Jagddivision sind gleich.
Konte es mogelich sein das die Bunker der Cäsarbunker
aus "Hoffmann " pagina 413 sind.
Der Bunker Cäsar ist ein Korps- und Divisions-Gefechtstand
mit ein Betonvolumen von 4000 cbm und ein Rohbauzeit von 3 monaten.
Auch hast die Bunker ein kart von 7 bei 7 meter , das stimmt mit das Grosse mitte raum.
Wie weisst mehr?

[SES (†)]

Hi,
Please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/

and specifically to your question:

http://www.gyges.dk/bunkers%20korps%20gefechtsstand.htm
bregds
SES

[jopaerya]

Dear S.E.S.

Ich glaube nicht das die bunker in Driebergen I Jagdkorps die Bunker ist in "Hoffmann " .
Es handelt sie um ein Memo von die II Jagdkorps von 1/1944
Ich glaube das die Bunker in Chantilly und Joux en Joses die
Cäsarbunker sind.
Die Bunker sind fur Korps- und Divisionstabe und ist ein Type
gleiche bunker.
Auch die Bunker in Kolding hast die derselbe Ingange.

Jos Vogel

[SES (†)]

Hi Jos,
I can follow your logic, but the two bunkers in France are only about 3.000 cubic meters, whereas Cäsar in Zeist is closer to 4.000 cubic meters.
brgeds
SES

[jopaerya]

Hello S.E.S.

You are right about the bunker in Driebergen , but
that one is build in "A" walls of 3.50 meter.
Normaly the bunkers are build in "B" 2.00 meter and
then the Driebergen bunker is smaller .
The bunker was build in end 1943 maybe it is a
forrunner one the bunkers at Chantilly and Joux-en-Joses.
The bunker at Chantilly was operational I think , that why it was
blown up inside.
In Joux-en-Joses was only build in concrete , not fitted with
any equipment.

Regards Jos